Hi! So we had it yesterday -6 degrees, and I was really hard with scratching in the morning, because the ice layer was also relatively thin, it was hard to get away. I hate to use the ripped side for fear of scratching the disc too much. Yesterday evening I then looked on the Internet for solutions, for Enteiser sprays etc. and there someone said that he would always use lukewarm water and that would be TOP. This morning, it was so 0-1 degrees, also had ice on the Windshield, I also tried. I filled up an empty water bottle in the bathroom with so, no idea, lukewarm water just, (“to shower too cold”, let’s say so), and took it down with me. And what should I say, just top, I needed maybe 200-300 ml to thaw the whole disc. That was really the upper hammer. Some sources that I found on the internet are talking about it becoming dangerous only when the water is about 35-40 degrees warmer than the S Cheibe, so lukewarm water would always be completely safe, because when do we have -15 degrees and colder in D? Doesn’t exactly correspond to the horror stories you always hear about this procedure, at the regular table etc. Does this horror story come from bursting slices only because a few idiots have tipped a bucket of hot water on the disk? I don’t have the impression that this lukewarm water procedure would be really very dangerous. nugrade seems to me to be extremely gentle, besides, I can hardly imagine that it will noticeably warm up the disc. So I will continue to do so for the time being, if someone can not post me here perhaps opposite experiences, because I am really thrilled. You can even go well without it icy again, because the windscreen wipers work immediately. However, it was this morning compared to yesterday also relatively mild I have to say. But it also saves d he disc, this stupid scratching, at the latest in the summer, you always get angry, because the whole disc is scratched. What do you think?