Hello, After researching and reading for quite a long time I have arrived at a point where I only turn in circles =( Originally I wanted to buy a used brand scooter, but these are hard to find in my proper environment. So it should become a cheaper, but good (!) new scooter. Ohso, I don’t intend to do the scooter somehow and will drive every day about 10km, important to me is basically the reliability, not constantly on I’ve been looking at the following: CPI Formula R/Aragon (1300 or 1500€) Kreidler RMC-G (1500€) Keeway RY-8 (1300€) Or a Kymco, because of the good price-performance ratio.. I know from other threads here that the Kymco is actually the best choice, but I’d rather have a 2T, just because of the sound In addition, for example, the agility doesn’t soo and the Super 8 is again too expensive. 1500€ Now I have the problem that I hear something different from all sides. My CPI/Kreidler-Haendler says, of course, the Kreidler are top (whereby he admitted that he had 2, which were really problematic: Florett and Flory – but how should I know that the RMC-G is better?!). This Haendler advised me from Keeway (shown the CPIs as outdated, sounded plausible…). My Keeway-Haendler says, CPI and his There are no scooters. Of course, they all want to sell something… Then I had 2 used Piaggios to choose from – a TPH from 2001, 15,000 km, engine completely overhauled, for 900 €, however my Ma and I drove the and we were not really satisfied. We both have no experience with scooters, but for our understanding – related to a car – the 2nd gear would be missing. So it accelerates slowly and then goes off completely, there was no one. The 2nd would be a Piaggio Fly (also 4T, unfortunately) , all I know about it so far is that it is 1 or 2 years old, has little down and should cost about 1000 €. Since I have not dealt with 4T rollers so far I can not say how much worse than 2strokes that are really and above all do not affect whether this really would kill me. Hmm, which of all would be the best (I hope you can get from “good” re Thanks for reading =) Would be great if someone could help me further here, I’m really desperate. Thank you, Sahny