hello wanted to ask you what experiences you have with the lexus gs. my parents think about buying a new used car this year (about 1-2 years) and in the narrower choice there were actually a 5 or a6. now the vw phaeton and the gs were added. at phaeton and gs just find the price very interesting and so far I have heard almost only good about the quality at lexus. so the phaeton is already a different class is clear to me but of the price they are already cheap z u got, we once saw one in the vw center in Cologne, great car only need we would not necessarily this size and am still skeptical about the reliability. is highly praised in the phaeton forum by all owners but many had already broken in the first months and many are of the opinion the lexus one could even compare me with phaeton. I see differently and the seller at vw in Cologne grinst also tormented when I said I would still be at genant brands inform and then maybe because of the search of a phaeton with our specifications call him. I really don’t care what is on the front and since German cars are not from Germany is the argument for me also not more relevant, earlier it was different. maybe we drive next week times at lexus köln look is yes directly opposite and bmw is also there. we have just before not to lease but want to buy a car and drive already min 6-8 years. if he still longer without problems then we also keep it. parents are still driving benz at the moment, but no longer in question. unless there is another new situation of the old find everything that came after 124 is no longer benz. interesting would be the gs 300 with automatic. I would be interested to see how with defective or small defects, consumption and stop driving characteristics. maybe has a nen gas conversion..? fagen über fraqen already in vorraus vielen thanks to mfg bender