Since I am not for censorship, but discussions in my blog will delete rigorously from now on, I pack all deleted posts in here. There can then be further discussion. @ SparAstra Well, at Subaru it is 69kWh heat energy of which about 1/3 are turned into motion (23 kWh) and the rest into heat. At Tesla it is exactly the other way around: use of 69kWh heat energy in the power plant with an efficiency of 45%. each 6% energy loss per 100km power transmission line (re With an average distance of 200km from the power plant, we still have 12% loss) Then 10% loss while charging and discharging. So (45 + 12 + 10) 67% loss. And so we land exactly at the 23kWh which are put into motion. Greetings SparAstra Of course I know that KaJu74 with “own solar power” charges his vehicle. >My Subaru needs 69 kWh / 100 km. Here you can see what a vintage car I drive and how to deal with energy. @emobilezukunft Besch Are you going to be using your oven, TV, fridge etc. about the poor efficiency of the power generation? If no ,why then with the car? @SparAstra Why I only complain to the car? Because the absolute numbers are highest here: My TV needs about 200kWh per year (for this, 600 kWh heat is required in the power plant) My refrigerator needs about 100kWh per year (for this, 300 kWh heat is required in the power plant) The Tesla needs approx. Year (that’s 13800 kWh heat is needed in the power plant, i.e. 1393 liters of diesel, that’s converted 6.96 L diesel / 100km). Don’t you think that you could move a Tesla with a ventilated diesel engine below 6.96 L diesel / 100km? Is another topic when the electricity really comes from renewables, like KaJu74. But all the others who just hang their electric car to the “normal power grid”. Just make it clear where the “big chunks” are, where you can save energy. ß SparAstra To my heating system: It already has about 99% efficiency (about 15000kWh per year of gas pure, about 149xx kWh of heat out). However, the biggest mess would be to heat with electricity (night storage ovens …) there for the approximately 15000kWh heat would have to be generated in my house in the power plant about 45000kWh heat. > Do you actually complain about the bad > efficiency of the power generation? > If no, why d ann by the car?