Moin! I have the pants “Sciara” by Held and the dealer has supplied me with the following hip protectors: Quattrotempi protector SAS-Tec (these parts with the honeycomb pattern) And these parts make me crazy. They constantly slip, fold and wrap up. That this not only makes a butt big like a truck, but also is extremely uncomfortable, I don’t have to mention it any further. I pack them neatly unfolded into the appropriate pockets, pull up the pants and have them as K It looks like an apple in the pocket! And they can’t really perform their function efficiently either. Because they’re so much on the pointer that I’m thinking about leaving them away… nothing good and before such a security-conscious person like me comes up with such thoughts, there’s already a pressure of suffering. Has someone with other hero protectors had better experiences and can they recommend it to me? Or are there models that fit universally? n and can be used across brands? Sometimes just driving to the outfitter is not…I live here in the outback and can not even cheerfully rattle the shops.