Hi, I was only car-sharer so far and would like to get my first car. Mainly I would like to drive out of the city on weekends (about 150 km/W) and of course also one or other city- and other overland trip will not be missing. However, the car will not be driven to work. Since I will transport some things, I am looking for a station wagon. At the same time I am looking for a car, which can be repaired halfway and the possible I’m looking for a commercial vehicle, not a prestige car or a pleasure car. According to my research, especially in this great forum, I’ve now landed at the models S 124 from Mercedes (w124 230 TE to MOPF 1) and 850 or V 70 I from Volvo (petrols). I realize that the old cars are and that one or the other can occur. But I’d rather buy a solid old car without any expected loss of value than a newer car with In my view, a lot of unnecessary Schnick Schnack, which can only be repaired by half-timbered workshops with IT devices. I had presented myself at a price of up to about 4,000 euros. All three models seem to be very solid constructed and produced cars, which can last for a long time even with very high running performance with reasonable maintenance. There seems to be enough spare parts and workshops for all. the Volvos of the more edgy 850s are better than the more modern V 70. But that is, as written, no essential criterion and I have the feeling that it is easier to get a V 70 I without rust than the two other models. In addition, the 124s and 850s have already had a few more years on the hump. Especially the topic of rust seems to me to be a real problem with the Mercedes. I would prefer an automatic transmission, despite the higher consumption, and at least with the M ercedes don’t seem to be error-prone either. Now I would be interested in your esteemed opinion. What do you think is the better choice? Have I missed something not considered/better models? Thank you in advance Seb