Hi, As described above, I have both in the narrow selection. Z650 I drove extensively. Like both very well. Performance-wise both are also very close to each other. The MT has a 180 tire at the rear and therefore wider than the one from Kawa. Does someone know each other with both machines and can help me with my decision? Drive currently the TDM but that doesn’t last forever. And the MT seems to be a little higher like the Z650. I find both qualitatively really good so please ni cht argue, however, needs a decision support. New or 1-3 years motorcycles in any case come into question with ABS. Thanks already for the help!