Hi, now I have to open a thread here. And indeed the Space Star of my grandparents broke today and now a replacement has to come. Actually they could just buy the same car again, but there are also other cars in this segment, I wanted to ask here for advice. Requirements are: -Climate -5 doors -Not under 90hp -level cargo space with folded rear seats (very important!) -approx. 18tkm a year -Nevertheless rather a petrol engine because of very many short distances not older than 10 or 11 years and best not over 125tkm on the watch manual transmission consumption not significantly above 8l/100Km -Excluded are already Hyundai Matrix (ugly) as well as my favorites Lancia MUSA and Fiat Idea (too small). That’s all I think, the budget is as mentioned about 4t€ ZIP code is actually unnecessary to enter here but further north than Göttingen/Leipzig/Dortmund should not be an ad if possible. I ask the question here in ers th line because of the foldable rear seats that have to give a flat surface and because 2 eyes don’t see as much as, well, more than 2 eyes What does this look like with Mazda Premazy or Ford C-Max? I’m also smart now, it has to go fast, my grandparents urgently need the car. MfG