Porsche , once an ingenious sports car forge for individualists, is now degenerated to the mass manufacturer softly washed 911-Plagiate. Recognizable also to the partially empty contributions in the P-Forum. There are e.g. pages about delivery time of a Breitling Super Avenger , the pretty Flat Six with P. Design and about the great P.-Hosenrock by Aunt Frieda philosophiert. letel. Without criticism no progress. mfg ortler