Hello, was just with my wife at the 500 presentation and I have to say, my wife (o.k. – i also ) were quite pleased with the little one On the question about the possible discount, the dealer wanted to get involved with nothing. Ok, he offered then another set of winter bikes as extra, but that was then already question: Did you have the same experiences? If not, how much was in and with which dealer??? Greeting Rüdiger