I have a polishing machine in front of me only my budget is not at 175€ for one of Lupus Therefore I found the Vossner. Have some of you already experiences with a Vossner, it is about the DAS6 Clone. Is the Vossner really as one as one can guess it in the pictures. And if possible I would like to buy such a machine naked and then order the pads at Lupus or at Skyline the MF Pads there I am not sure. What actually brings a fur on e in the Exenter Maschine that is not quite obvious to me, this is often supplied with the Vossner machines. As polishes I have to look again, I don’t think the Ultimate Compound is enough. so budget loves with 150 ink small support plates and a pair of acceptable pads. Greetings from the island island of Inselcaddy or now Touran