Hello, I’m new here and I need your advice. I want to get an off-road car as a second car, because I often go fishing and hunting and I can only do that with my B 180 from Mercedez only bad 😉 Had already looked at the “new” Panda 4×4. But is almost a little small. But can also be a used off-road car. But know me with car technology only magically, therefore I hope here on your advice. My ideas: – Price max. 12,000 Euro – we d only driven as 2 seaters, there is always dog sitting behind. – as low consumption as possible (possibly combinable with car gas). – very important Euro 4, since I want to drive with it from time to time on a business trip – speed does not matter, however, 130 km/h suffice me – very reliable it should be, rust-resistant etc. – need no electr. window lifter etc. Climate would be ok and a simple radio. – the car wants the next 8 years as much as possible without large rust and technology pro – Use of the car: 60% road and 40% forest roads, gravel roads – hardly anything is pulled with the car Do you have any tips for me, which car should I look closer? Rather buy from the dealer in my case or still private (but because of my ignorance already fell in) or turn to a club? Many thanks in advance, the “sock holder” (my dog is called sock *laughs*)