Hi A few weeks ago actually the 2008 Lexus GS450h should be ordered by my dad. Since the Lexus dealer had still assured, since he is already ordered. When it was time, we had to make a retreat, because he is probably not yet available. Also the boss of the forum could not give out any information. Does one of you happen to know when the facelift is available? Is there anything on the net? Pre-orders seem not yet possible. a. And there’s a bit of a hurry too. I don’t know why, but I don’t know why. You need a new toy, this time for the 100% own needs Thanks already for the hints Greetings, Heron P.S. Does someone seem to have been working for a Lexus subforum after all….