Moin, I need a few reference values, because I find the verb of my X20SE quite interesting: 30 KM Bundesstraße + 4 KM Stadt = ~ 10 L / 100km Short distance to 3 KM = ~ 11 – 12 L / 100 km Does this really come with the engine? Under 10 the colleague is not to be moved and I swim on the Bundesstraße with a maximum of 100 in the flowing traffic. Our passat with its 1.8 107 hp machine needs on average 2.5 – 3 liters less, however, weighs also a little less. Both values without Kli Ma. Greetings, Thorsten