So as in the other thread I’m looking for a new one in the medium term…(in 1-1.5 years) after my now only 6 months old 7-seater laura. many seem to know a lot about gr0ße cars. so T5 caravelle long would be a dream (far too expensive) MB Viano….also too expensive my favourite in the moment of the Citroen jumpy…sounds stupid but looks quite good for mcih and is to have as a quasi camper oceanic in it is the equipment almost complete…(for this would come optional air suspension back with convenience to lower the back to load the citrone also has 170 kg dachlast…there you could still hang and 2000 kg hanging load is also cool