Hello dear Schwarmintelligenz I’m new here and hope in advance that I’ll behave according to all the rules with this post and nothing has failed. I’m looking for a car in which I can easily set up a lying area for spontaneous trips or festivals with a size of 1.72 m without having to roll in. Sleeping on the passenger seat of my Astra F is not so the highlight. The real dream is a T4 TDI, however, was first postponed, resp. I would like to look around for alternatives that are perhaps more practical in everyday life. Since my knowledge for years has rather concentrated on the T4, I am rather clueless about other vehicles. It should definitely not be a new car, but rather an older model. Regarding the technology in the car I think rather “What is not in can not be broken”. I don’t need frills. Have already looked at the Mazda 5, since the area was back ziemli The Chrysler Grand Voyager is also nice of the size, but swallows too much. Does anyone know what it looks like with the area at the rear of the Opel Zafira and Mazda Premacy? I don’t find the Sharan, Alhambra and Galaxy particularly pretty… I don’t like this “drip shape”. Or do you know other models that are suitable for my purposes, go used up to 500€ and are considered reasonably reliable? When searching the net, there was always someone and I thought maybe it’s better to get competent help. I hope very much for you and hope I gave you information that you can work with.