Hello, I am still quite new here, but this forum is very great (that’s why I also registered) So, I am currently 17, but I will be 18 in March. I would like to buy a car that should be used as a beginner car. I have to say clearly here that a car is a useful item for me and therefore I don’t want to have any tuning stuff or anything, even scratches or something (they are not alzu pronounced) do not bother me. I had to a Opel Corsa, Ford Crown Victoria ( can get a relatively cheap answer) or something else. I got information once and looked on the Internet, so I know that the taxes would probably be the cheapest…so I can count around 200-350€ a year. But the insurance will have it in itself I think, although I have friends who pay as a beginner around 60€ a month, is that normal? How much will a car (about 70hp) cost me when we have registered it as a second car? I could also use my parents’ car now which could say, is only insured if the driver is at least 23 years old, besides, I have the “noble” option to save money as a beginner, e.g. register the car with the grandma as a second car to get in with less percent? (if this is possible, I don’t know about it).I am very grateful for suggestions.