In the case of cars in the used car market, it is usually assumed that the stated price is not final, but that the seller is still at least a bit in favour of you. I have now come across an offer, in which the seller (commercially) did not want to move a millimeter… Price level around 20k Euro, price is not at all overpriced, but he will already know the reasons (diesel, so currently not very popular…). Price”-questioner or someone of the people, who with completely absurd price proposals tries to push the price on hell come out (who has ever sold a car, knows these clients…) …but a price discount within the scope of e.g. 5% you should be able to expect, or do I see this wrong?? (this is comparatively little money, but psychologically it would make it much easier for me to buy…) Bzw. there are many (serious?) dealers, in this way at all no after to offer?