Hello to the Hifi Forum! When I was browsing in a car magazine, I thought today how the Hifi faction thinks about the radios, which are installed in the car from the factory. Especially for those who want to install everything themselves, there is no chance at all for many new cars. Since already half the center console takes the place of a radio. DIN shafts do not exist anymore and retrofitting possibilities also probably not. Wouldn’t it be better for some people, if he had the car WITHOUT factory radio could order?