Hello, I’ll make it very short, because you have enough beginner topics but I still can’t get any further. Facts My best and I 32 and 30 years old, you 1.78 me 1.87 big both rather long haxen looking for a motorcycle, in the first place it will be for me. However, we have to share this one, two years us, so it is important that both me and my girlfriend fit on it. We had actually looked out the Tiger 800 Onroad, is also theoretically for us THE motorcycle, all that gs we somehow can’t cope with the whistle of the engine, it’s somehow to Penetrant, if you run smoothly through the area ok, then impress something, but relax through a village or with 2000udm strolling, nee somehow it is then to penetrant, that makes me almost sad. Therefore I am now looking for an alternative and can’t see the forest in front of trees. Budget is 8500 maximum less would be better. ABS is a must! I like the CB1000R and the Tiger 800 really well. So rather the more aggressive the XJR from Yamaha does not have an ABS either. I also don’t like the F800R but the knee angle for the driver. The F800 GS is difficult to get for my course with good equipment but also with 880mm seat height a bit too high for my friend. And the beak is well, R120 In reality, I also like most of the time too expensive and I don’t know the ABS doesn’t seem to be the most reliable.