Hello, I don’t want to encourage a stupid “what consumes mine and yours” discussion. I’m only interested in experiences, how the consumption of the older 163hp generation to the new 163 and 185hp with DPF is assessed, the same way of driving. The revised engine is generally described as smoother and with the 400NM in the 185hp version significantly stronger. Also the new automatic seems to be better. Background, I’m already interested in the new S80 with diesel engine (preferably as D6 *g*). My personal and annoying assessment is that the DPF engines are always thirstier than the same without DPF. Experience values would please me. Thank you already in advance. many greetings Roger