Hello and warm greetings to the forum, I have fallen in love with the idea of having a “thickness” too. In the foreground is the desire for a proper travel car with high comfort, high reliability, sufficient driving performance and manageable costs. Last, not least, the certain understatement of a “VW” is also against me. My previous conclusion of the pre-nained considerations is a used Phaeton Diesel V6 in basic motorization (IMO what about 240hp). My investment readiness lies around the 20-25 TEU. For this there is a quite wide range of quite enticing Phaetons. Mostly the equipment list is very long, the running performance is between 50 and 130 Tkm and the age between 3.5 and 5 years. Is there with the Phaetons in the context of the uptimes, models or model years, which are less or not recommended? Is there anything better to have and/or other, which is to have a “Mus”? Is there a advantage of having a few Euro more to invest in a lot of equipment?